Posted: 2017-12-07 01:37
I am neither supporter/nor someone who opposes Nadi. Still I am clueless of what it is.
Last week we had gone to Vaitheeswaran temple en route to Chidambaram temple from Velankanni. Two of my friends wanted to see Nadi Josiyam and we went in.
Both had their predictions very accurate. Nobody threatened us or puzzled us. We didn 8767 t sit in any wired room and nobody was discussing about any personal information about anyone.
Everybody were just curious to know what comes out as prediction for those two people.
One of the guy who is our close friend went inside. He said most of his predictions were accurate. Although many things can be picked from the person 8767 s mouth itself, one of the prediction left my friend shell shocked. Some weeks back, he had his second child aborted as his first child was born only little ago. They even told that matter and only a handful of people know about it. There is no way that it got leaked via any means.
What is your answer for this?
Dr Nayak is in an illusionary world Mr. Balakrishnan. Not only he has illusions but also ina deep trance. Time and again i explained the true practitioners of this invaluable guide to human life leave alone cheaters , looters and scamsters.. But I find this site and its dogmatic writers stick to their worn out unscientific temper and go on beating their drums..We could wake up only those who sleep but not theones who pretend to sleep I am reminded of the extensive rituals done at the cremation of moorthy inspite of him being an atheist
Nadi Jothidam is a fraud method available in Tamilnadu.
used gather the information from the person who is introducing you to the Joshyar (Astrologer).
the intermediate person will be the source for information.
the intermediate fellow is the only bridge to you and Joshyar.
friend once convinced verymuch with nadijoshyam, Then i helped him to find out the person, who passed his info to Joshyar.
6)he was a guy barely out of his college. he told me he was accompanying his cousin. his cousin had consulted nadi 8-9 years back and now that many of the predictions had come true his cousin was getting some further study of his chapters or kandams. he also confided he had given his thumbprint and in order to test the system he had registered himself by a pseudonymn- Karan. After his first round he came back to me looking very perplexed. he revealed 8766 they had found his real name! 8767 they asked him if his name was Angush? then he confirmed his name was Ankush! he was still in a process of finding this own leaf therfore, i couldn 8767 t hear more from him.
In a later write up I have given instances where these fellows were off the track and every case that was presented before them. In Chennai we had even gone to a 8766 research institute 8767 . The modus operandi was the same keep beating around the bush until you get the right answer. Some times, the one who presents his date of birth may be conned by the person who takes him there by already providing the info to the reader.
The person whose leaves are being searched for and those with him are asked to wait in a comfortable pace when the search is going on and that again provides an op to over hear the check my writeup= the fraud of nadi jotidam in the same site for more details on this. This write up here was made in 7558 and that in 7566, three years later.
Dear Nayak:- I do not know of any real ones-else I would not have been taken for a ride. Maybe there are 8767 nt any anymore. If they are, I would like to meet them myself. If palm leaves written over 7555 + years ago were written- and they probably were- then they could not have been preserved- atmosphere would have warped the,rodents would have destroyed them and the govt would have taken them and preserved as national treasures. Yet they are available everywhere- or so we are made to believe.
I also learn that what he told of my past matched with what was told to another relative who went a month earlier. The reader tells us that our past was so bad and influencing our present that we pay the extra amount to learn about it. Then he says that they can conduct the rituals and send us prasad all at a very high cost. But how can the rituals conducted by someone else- even if in my name- get me salvation? I must do anything myself if I am to gain from it.
And regarding palm leaves.. he says that original set of palm leaves will be preserved by Vaitheeswaran Temple management. And to read Nadi one needs to learn the stuff for 8 years from temple people and if they are qualified they are given a copy of leaves to a make living from prediction. Even the copies need to be returned every day 8767 s end along with due rentals. If someone wants to practice from out of Vaitheeswaran kovil, they are also given a copy and due rentals are charged for it. So you will not find anything from carbon dating of those leaves as they would have been something recently written.
I was told to write my date of birth on a sheet of paper and two thumb impressions of my right hand were taken. That was all that was needed to look for the palm leaf with my life story written on it. It was, however, subject to availability I was told, as I was asked to sit down in a fixed place while the search for it was on. We declined this invitation and told them that we would go around the place and come later. When we came back after ten minutes, we were told that I was lucky as my leaf had been found, and that it would be read. When I asked the permission of the person reading it for it to be photographed, he declined. When I asked whether he would pose for a picture he was vehement in his refusal. Luckily, I had already managed to take a few pictures of the place and its fixtures.
just dropped into share my experience. Me and my husband went for nadi reading. We asked for specific 8775 kaandams 8776 (chapters). We were asked to come back after 7 hours, because they needed time to search it. Mine was not available, and only my husband 8767 s. We asked for progeny and assets related chapters. What they did was, because they found most of the details in general chapter, added another chapter on illness(which we never asked). I was bit irate on this, but never showed up. They never wanted to spare the extra was what I thought. The predictions went on, and what surprised me was that they came up with my health issues from my husband 8767 s naadi. Even this was considered one of the reasons of delay in progeny. (Later when I went for siddha treatment, the doctor said the same). They even had some medicines in the naadi but following them is a tedious task. The predictions were accurate to the T. Even the health issues of my husband like lumbar pain came out clearly with root cause.
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First they get your Nakshtra of your birth by repeated trials, then maasa ( month in lunar calender ), then year. year they guess in less trials ( by your appearance).
Once they get your date of birth in lunar calendar rest is simple calculation.
It is interesting to note that, they read out so many contradictory questions in same leaf. ( if one leaf belongs to one person, questions like you are a christian should not be followed by question like you are a muslim. But that is not the case there. They keep on asking several trials for each variety of question on same leaf, which can not belong to a single person)
Two things to note are : 6 ) huge no of questions of several aspects. 7) No of trials for each aspect.
I have done that again after several years and the same is on this site itself under the title the fraud of nadi jotidam. I will not turn my back on anything. I do not want any vague general predictions. I am going to go the person with a sealed envelop. All I want is the serial number of the currency note correct to the last digit in sequence. They cannot say it has a one, a six and seven and things like that in the vague language they say.
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YOu people are peddling nadi and you are propably paid by theose con men for these falls propoganda. Yogiviek, people like you and the Nadi readers are milking money out of innoccent people.
I can tell you as a tamil native, whatever they are saying is purely blabbering. it is not ancient tamil. Dare you , ask the nadi readers to hand over the document to tamil reasearchers for validity and carbon dating. YOu will find they are not 6555 years old as claimed by them and not even any langauge!!.
Will you do that Nadi conman?
That being said, I could take up your challenge if I was a Nadi reader or knew how it actually works, which is evidently not the case. I came to this forum seeking possible explanation of how this works. All I got in response was first a request to share my reading details on the forum. I have replied I would not do that on here, 8767 cause of the personal nature of the statements made. However, I am ready whenever you want to share with you or anyone else for that matter, the recording on a personal, face to face basis. That would be done purely to speculate the possibilities and probabilities of rational explanations. No where in the conversation I have tried to promote the readers. I was trying to understand the science (if it is one!). But your attitudes, and militant rationalization is no good to me.
What do you do when even postgraduates are unable to modify their behavior when presented with comprehensive information about a topic? What do you do when you can 8767 t convince a professor and a head of the department of chemistry about the absurdity of Homeopathy or when a clinical practitioner argues that his personal opinion about it is superior than any data? What do you do when an educated bureaucrat insists that Astrology works. Part of the failure would be a judgment on my communication skills, but only partly. How many times does one get, to harp on people before straining social bonds?
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Thanks for enlightening. As I have mentioned previously, I have no connection with Chajed. His news article has been in media, so I knew about his challenge to Dr Dabholkar 8767 s organisation!
Seems you have no control over their inactions as a Present of Fedration of Rationalists of all India level! Well it happens! Regarding Oldman from Bangaluru, he should call for Chajed. That his dotage should not be an excuse. Nirmukta should come forward to track down Chajed and bring in front of Oldman to defeat him?